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From the conference, «Growing, Suffering and Choice: Spiritual and Scientific Exploration of Human Experience», held November 5, 2005, at the Stanford School of Medicine, presenting His Holiness the 14th Dalai Lama, and moderated by Dr. William Mobley. See also Mark Williams, Zindel Segal, and Jon Kabat-Zinn, The Mindful Way Through Depression: Freeing Yourself from Chronic Unhappiness (New York: Guilford Press, 2007).